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CLASS A and "AR" licencing

Oct 13, 2011

For those that stay on top of the licencing for larger fifth wheels, the new laws are now and have been in effect since July 01 2011.  

What You Need to Know:

Driver's licenced in Ontario will now be able to operate/tow/drive recreational vehicles up to the 11,000kg "combined vehicle weight" with a Class G Licnece when towing 1 vehicle for personal use.

Combined vehicle weight (GVW) means the " Total Gross Vehicle Weight" for the tow vehicle (car or truck) AND the recreational vehicle.  I would suggest to get a weigh ticket of the truck and trailer and keep it with you.  

PLEASE NOTE:  Originally the MTO was going to require that a completed RV Safety and Towing Checklist/test be completed and a subsequent identification card issued showing competency be required as well.  THIS IS NOT THE CASE.  The MTO has made this part VOLUNTARY.  At this point there is no requirement by either the MTO or the Insurance Bureau of Canada for such as test.  Not to say that the Insurance Bureau of Canada may require this in the future.  I would check with your insurance company if they will offer any reduction if you do take the test and pass. If for your peace of mind we can perform this test/checklist for the fee of $150 and you will upon successful completion receive a card indicating so. This test is conducted here at the dealership by dealership staff.  It is NOT an MTO administered test.  It is easy and stresses safety. 

For more information you can attend the MTO's website and print off the information on this.  I would keep this with you in the truck and a copy of the weights so that if pulled over by an uninformed Police officer you have the back up information you may need.  To access the MTO's site and the news on this click on the link below.

http://news.ontario.ca/mto/en/2011/06/making-it-easier-for-rv-operators-to-enjoy-summer.html


For everyone that either has an RV or thinking of getting one there are a few things to be aware of. Currently within the Province of Ontario the class G licence will allow you to pull a trailer or fifth wheel up to 11,000kg total between the tow vehicle and the trailer being towed. So make sure to weight the trailer "loaded" and then weigh your truck. There are a number of places to get this done at. Here in Waterford we have Norfolk Disposal where you can ask to do this. Have a slip in the truck with the combined weight is a good idea. Now onto the ownership. Every car dealer will automatically just put on the minimum amount on the ownership. You are supposed to purchase extra if the combination of truck and trailer are over 4500kg. So once you get your combination weighed head over to Service Ontario and make sure your ownership is registered for the total amount between truck and trailer. Your ownership will say 4500kg from when you bought the vehicle. So if your truck and trailer come in at 9300kg then you will have to purchase more weight. I believe the offer it in 500kg increments. So you would register your ownership for 9500kg. So when the MTO pulls you over (very rare for recreational trailers) and you show them your weight tag along with your ownership you will be good. There is one catch to this however. Once you register the ownership for anything over 4500kg you are required to get and annual safety inspection on the tow vehicle. You don't have to apply for a CVOR (commercial vehicle operators registration) but you need to get the safety done. This is a pain in the behind and it isn't cheap. So. Now you know the rules of the road. Verification of this info is best found by contacting and MTO enforcement office and speaking with and officer. There is a branch in London and they are quite helpful. If you need I can assist with this. I may have an email that I can share with you as well.
 
Another question that pops up when regarding weights is respect to GVWR or Gross Vehicle Weight Recommended. When the MTO mentions Gross Weight they mean the weight as measure on the scale. People mistake this for what the trailer weights. GVWR is the combination of what the trailer weighs empty and what it can carry based upon what the axle/s are capable of carrying. So if a trailer weighs 2000lbs empty and has a 3500lb axle under it the trailer can effectively carry in the range of 1500lbs. and the GVWR is somewhere in that 3500lbs area for multiplicities sake. If you were to put a 5500lbs axle under that same trailer the UVW might not change much but the GVWR goes through the roof. What you want to know is what the trailer weighs loaded as you would for camping thus the reason to take it to a scale. When buying a trailer get the UVW or unloaded vehicle weight and then add what you would for paraphernalia and that will give you what your vehicle will see. I have seen too many times people passing by a trailer because they are looking at the GVWR and it is too heavy for their vehicle but if the UVW plus your supplies are well under your tow capacity then you will be good and safe. Hope this all helps.
 
Happy and SAFE travels peeps.
 
Peter

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